Primal Kiwi technology hits Trestles
Thursday, September 17, 2009   14 Comments
Posted by Photo CPL
Often the most simplistic way to quantify NZ’s impact and place in the surfing world is how many surfers we’ve had in the world’s competitive arenas.

Unfortunately this has also tends to be one of the bleakest terms of qualification. Sure we’ve had some glimmers of greatness, Al Bryne posted a second at the Pipeline Pro in the early ‘80’s and has gone on to become one of the world’s most respected shapers. Iain ‘Ratso’ Buchanan similarly flew the Kiwi flag as an ASP professional in the mid 80’ and early 90’s, and he’s now the WQS European Head Judge. More recently Maz Quinn was our World Tour contender and WQS battler for over 10 years, we also now have Paige Hareb on the Women’s World Tour, and nothing should ever be taken away from these talented individuals’ stellar achievements. But as a whole, if that’s the way you’re going to quantify our nation’s impact; quite frankly, it’s pretty shithouse.


Josh Kerr ripping lowers on some Kiwi tech - Photo: ASP/ CI/ ROWLAND


Now, before you get all patriotic and start posting nasty comments please read on. While NZ is yet to fire as a nation of contest heads, we’ve done pretty nicely with surfing innovations and explorations. We’re the geeks at the bottom of the world who get hold of an idea and figure out how to make it better; it’s that old number 8 wire- can do- worth a crack mate, ethos that we pride ourselves on.

As mentioned before Al Byrne is regarded as one of the world’s best shapers, specifically he’s the man who took the concept of the six channel gun and refined the design to a piece of living art. Slater, Machado, Kong, Rabbit- the list goes on of who is who whom own a Byrning Spear. Rod Dahlberg is another fine example, the former Mountie’s board label and surname is forever associated with the legend Occy. Did you know that Kiwi’s figured out in the 50’s that polyester [PU] foam was better to use before the Aussies and Seppos did? 

And right now there could quite possibly be a quiet world wide revolution about to start tippling along from out of a West Auckland shaper’s stinky pit. You see, while there’s been an acknowledged and needed move towards more user and environmentally friendly materials like epoxy resin and polystyrene, the big problem is the epoxy boards don’t perform the same way a PU board does…to clarify, not necessarily worse, just not the same. It’s all about the density of the foam blank and the flex patterns and memory that each type of blank produce for the rider. You may have thought your board was a rigid stick, but it’s not designed to be so. Shapers take these flex patterns into consideration when they make your shooter. Ever had a lively magic board that dies??? Well that’s because over time the flex pattern changes and the foam lose its flex memory. Ok I’m apologising for filling you full of too much background info.

The point of all this is Glen Carkeek out at Primal Kumeu may well have cracked the epoxy nut, GC has figured out a manufacturing technique that gives epoxy boards the same performance values of PU boards…and figured out how to do it for a cost effective price. Big deal you shrug…is that where this blog was going and that’s it…. Piffffftt…well it would be just that, except the manufacturing concept aka Futurelite is getting picked up internationally, ohhhh and why did the blog start with a tenuous reference to the World Tour, well Rusty Team rider and World Tour surfer Josh Kerr is currently riding one of the boards in the Hurley Pro at Trestles…check out this blog, see how the bottom of the board has no stringer and has carbon running down the rails? Yep, that there is a Kiwi invention.


So GC what do you reckon this means for Primal/Futurelite and how do you feel about your innovation making the World Tour?

GC: “I have been trying to introduce the technology to the world for not much other reason than it goes really well.  (Jason Rodd) JR –Josh’s shaper is now a regular guest shaper to the factory. He will be here again late October. He saw the design and surfed one and recognised immediately there was a breakthrough.
He took some blanks and materials back to Oz to get his top team riders to test it. Josh Kerr is fizzing on the technology and the rest is becoming history.

On a commercial level the world takes notice of the top 44 riding new innovations. JR and his network are ordering bulk materials for the Japanese market and after this week most likely the worldwide market. Although the materials and production process is quite simple I have developed along with New Zealand companies a very high density EPS and a clear, fast epoxy resin. We know this is well ahead of anything available elsewhere. The advantage in NZ is that there are small companies that are prepared to R&D products for a small market and a lot of clever minds that can think outside the square.

This technology stemmed from looking at the whole epoxy revolution that was going on. The parabolic rail, sandwich construction and what seemed apparent to me drawbacks and design flaws in everything that was out there.

I dismissed everything and made a wish list of everything I thought we needed to make an EPS epoxy board ride well on all levels. The ol' ‘there has to be a better way’. And essentially the first concept was almost bang on.

At the moment it’s a bit of sit and wait to see where this goes. We already have formalised the Futurelite brand and in NZ Primal and Hughes surfboards are the official suppliers of the technology. In Australia JR surfboards is the supplier, Olon with some Japanese brands. He’s in the process of inviting selected brands to join the fold which is basically going crazy after the Trestles comp.

Pretty exciting stuff really, it would be nice to gain recognition for it and a bit of commercial success is always nice. There is scant reward for getting dusty for most of the surf industry.” -GC

Links --

PhotoCPL.co.nz / Check out a preview of CPL's new book 'Beached As'

Primalsurf.com / Find out more about Primal Futurelite

Josh Kerr warming up at Trestles - See the board in full flight
   

       

14 comments so far...
1.
Sep 17,
2009

12:23 pm

si , kiwi surfa not so caliente like sur america surfa -kiwi boy to busy shampo hair to surf hot .I see Glen Cargeeks tablas -he hot shaper -very good

- Posted by juan kemps

2.
Sep 17,
2009

01:00 pm

Whats the price like on these futurelite's?

- Posted by sparrow

3.
Sep 17,
2009

01:19 pm

GC boards go really well on "Island Holidays" surf trips too.....

- Posted by Pete

4.
Sep 17,
2009

03:18 pm

Firstly NZs carbon foot is terrible, sorry it's not clean and green... Its about time someone came up with something that could make a difference, congrats GC. Secondly who cares about what Josh Kerr is riding at Tresles...The Wct is not the benchmark its cracked up to be. Stop trying to compare yourselves, your kidding...

- Posted by Biggest Brother

5.
Sep 17,
2009

04:54 pm

Am I missing the point, or are they trying to make epoxy boards surf like Polys? Mate make them go better!

- Posted by morgz

6.
Sep 17,
2009

05:50 pm

We have nothing to prove to anyone - we just go surfing

- Posted by Hemi

7.
Sep 18,
2009

07:48 am

does that mean your the benchmark for future surfing biggest brother? hah.

- Posted by mountie

8.
Sep 18,
2009

09:25 am

Wow. Biggest brother? the WCT is the Benchmark. They guys on that tour are the best surfers in the world Hands down. What they do and the products they try filter down so we can all have a more enjoyable surfing experience. Good onya GC and Primal for trying new ideas. And if Josh Kerr is confident enough to ride them in a WCT comp It's got to be good.

- Posted by Dooma

9.
Sep 18,
2009

10:06 am

Its good to see one of the top pros putting it out there and trying something new..I feel that too many of these guys are stuck in their ways and arent willing to give something new a crack. They jump on a board and if they dont like it on their first 2 waves then they write it off as shit..epoxies go good, theyre just different and require adjusting too..from what ive seen these future-lites are the shiz and Im definitley lining up to give one a dig!Lets see biggest brother qualify for the 'CT!? He probably drives a V8 SUV and rides a mini-mal anyway...

- Posted by Greeny

10.
Sep 18,
2009

12:58 pm

UUUUMMMMMM!!!! Maz Quinn, world tour contender??? he was on the world tour for a year!! get yer facts right guys!

- Posted by west side

11.
Sep 18,
2009

01:53 pm

hey Westie, the facts are right, sorry for the misunderstanding, I meant Maz was a contender for the World Tour, ie; he was on the WQS for ten years contending to get on and re-enter the top 44. I'm sorry if that's not clear...ALSO where I was trying to go with this blog is to highlight a Kiwi surfer/shaper/company that's got an innovation on the world stage, I reckon the chap deserves a beer after work, and it's a friday!

- Posted by CPL

12.
Sep 19,
2009

12:30 pm

Wow nice advertising.....having said that if these boards do ride anything near aswell as PU / polyester Well done. i'd be interested to try one out

- Posted by Susan Paul

13.
Sep 21,
2009

05:09 am

Shanksy was so far down the expoxy and foam gig about 15 years ago he should have ruled the green techno board world BUT he had to battle a town a

- Posted by Boogie Down Jack Daniels

14.
Sep 23,
2009

09:13 am

En Sur America we use Epoxy for muchas anos I believe .I ce my cousin Pablo put wat I think was 1kg foam block in Epoxy cuase he said work real good .Carkeek is behind times but he beta watch out cause it may start be illegal to make foam block with epoxy skin like en case en Colombia -the police took Pablo away for long time

- Posted by juan Kemps



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